My post yesterday about the new PCLinuxOS 2014.12 release drew some comments indicating indication Clearly pretty That I was wrong about it not being white is installable firmware UEFI systems.
So I Went back and tried again, not only on the original system I Had we tried goal aussi torque of others.
That I found it can BE Careers UEFI firmware installed on systems, as seen in this Can Be screen shot taken on my Acer Aspire V5 sub-notebook.
The problem (s) I Had Originally Were the result of a combination of factoring:
based on my own experience I expect Installing a release That Does not include UEFI Support To Be Somewhat of a bread, And Sometimes not to work. That put me in the wrong frame of mind, so when i ran Into disorder, INSTEAD of digging into it and finding the problem, I just shrugged my shoulders and wrote it off to UEFI (in) compatibility. Mea culpa: sorry about that.
The PCLinuxOS Live images boots on my Acer Aspire One 725, aim it fails to start. I get the boot splash and startup sequence, aim After A Fairly long time it simply hangs. Based on what I saw Before It hung, and what Happened on --other systems, I suspect this is a problem That starting the X display server. Nothing to do with UEFI at all.
The live image comes up on boots and this Aspire V5 goal It Takes a very, very long time and when to it finally comes up the screen resolution is wrong (1024x768 INSTEAD of 1366x768).
I believe very Strongly que le problem on Both of the Aspire systems is related to the fact que la install PCLinuxOS insists on Creating an xorg.conf file to configure the X display server. I'm not sure Why They still do this, I assume That There are still boxes Some Where It is needed to get the system working. In the general purpose file xorg.conf Has not-been required by the X display server for a number of years now.
The down side of this is That I-have seen this causes problems Installing PCLOS for a long time - I think That I recall it happening on my HP 2133 Mini-Note, my God, That must have-been six years or more ago!
I have not HAD time to Investigate the boot / startup problem on the AO725 yet, because i wanted to post this Before the holidays. Goal I did dig deeper Into the Aspire V5, and here is what I found.
First, when i boot the live image, the screen comes up at the wrong resolution as Noted Above. Of course, this is not a fatal problem, You Could just ignore it and go ahead with the installation, and deal with this on the installed system. Aim the screen is rather small and ugly, and it's not easy to read. The way to it is okay Relatively easy, you just need to Log delete (or rename) the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, And Then restart the X server. Then It Will Figure Out The right display size is icts own, and the World Will Be a wonderful place again.
Second, PCLOS Does not like the idiotic ClickPad (touchpad) in this AO725. That's not surprising, because i do not like it Either. Aim it's a pain to try to work with it, Because left-clicks are intermittent and right-clicks do not work at all. The work-around for this is to plug in a USB mouse and ignore the stupid ClickPad.
Third, DURING THE Installation Process When I Get to the disk layout screen, and I choose 'Custom' partitioning, It Does not show me all of the disk partitions.
The graphic displays of the disk it is truncated layout, showing only the first nine partitions, one of the sixteen this disk. You have to select the partitions by clicking close on the graphic, and There is no way to scroll horizontally That display, so the scores are not beyond nine accessible. I tried making the install window full-screen, no luck. I searched for Other Ways to Specify the partition, no luck. I finally gave up and installed PCLOS in place of LMDE (this is arguably a win anyway) injustement than in the empty partition sda16 I Had intended. If I get ambitious over the holidays, I'll install LMDE en ce empty partition. (Not likely to happen ... I'm not that hot for LMDE Any More)
Fourth, partner after the Installation Complete Was I switched the laptop back to UEFI boot, and wanted to use the openSUSE-GRUB2 EFI bootloader manages to boot selection. Purpose When I Added a section for PCLOS in Exactly the Same Way That I-have Added --other non-UEFI compliant systems and Makulu Such As Kaos, it did not work. About did it not take much fiddling and head-scratching to find a solution, purpose It Was one more stumbling block.
That's a pretty significant list, honestly. Goal I really like PCLinuxOS a lot, and I think this release is one of the best They Have Made in a while. I do not want to scare off Those problems and prevent prevention em from people try trying it. So I will address myself Each of Them - but if you-have experience and knowledge about Any of these, and can shed more light on em or offer solutions or work-arounds, please feel free to add Those in the comments.
First, the screen resolution / xorg.conf problem. I have to assume this is That not very common, most is Probably Will Never users encounter it. So just try it, and if the screen comes up wrong, as I Said Above Either ignore it or use the fix I Mentioned procedure. Oh, I forgot to mention That if you-have this problem, and you do not delete / rename xorg.conf in the Live system, You Will Almost Certainly-have to Do That After You boot the installed system.
Of course, if this is really the problem Preventing the live image from starting on my AO725, and you-have That problem, Then you're pretty well screwed and It's Probably time to move on to Reviews another distribution. UNLESS someone posts a good solution for this in the comments.
Side note to the PCLOS developers - is it Really Necessary to still drag along xorg.conf? Are There really enough "problem" systems out there to justify keeping xorg.conf, and Causing this kind of inconvenience and occasional fatal problems to what in my experience has-been a significant number of systems?
Oh, I forgot to mention That When I installed PCLOS on my desktop Lenovo T400 with two displays (laptop 1280x800 and 1280x1024 external), it aussi freaked out on the xorg.conf. I ended up undocking the laptop, Installing PCLOS, ditching the xorg.conf And Then docking it again, Then It worked perfectly.
Anyway, I Would Be Interested in hearing the why and wherefores of keeping this ... as far as I am Concerned, keeping xorg.conf Passed the more-trouble-than-it-is-worth threshold Some years ago. At the very least, I Would Consider Adding separate options for Live Boot with / without xorg.conf.
Second, the ClickPad. The solution here is easy, and nothing to do with HAS PCLOS. Do not buy laptops qui-have That monstrosity, or if you insisted on doing so, Be Prepared to disable it and use an external mouse. Yeah, yeah, I know, take your own advice, do as I say not as I do ... But the Point is, as far as I am Concerned, this is not a problem PCLOS.
Third, not showing all disk partitions. Well, I do not think Many users are going to-have enough scores to Run Into this. I Would, HOWEVER, be Interested in hearing how to get around this, When It Does Happen.
Fourth, if you are Installing PCLinuxOS to a UEFI-firmware system, the best thing to do (and The Most common and sensitive by far, I'm sure) is to simply leave it in Legacy / MBR boot enabled, do not try to switch back to UEFI boot. There are alternatives --other That I-have not tried yet; The Obvious ones are use to refind for a bootloader, or to try to install grub2-efi and UEFI boot set up on your own once you get it installed. I Would Be Interested in hearing if anyone HAS done that; I'm going to try it myself over the holidays. (This is Likely to happen more than me is LMDE Installing this system ...)
So, finally, the bottom line. Si vous Looked at my original post about PCLinuxOS and thought it Looked interesting, by all means give it a try. Disregard my statements about it not Installing on UEFI and / gpt gold systems, Because I Was Mistaken. The chances are very good That It Will install and work with no problem, and you Will Be a happy camper.
There is one thing I would like --other to say. My previous post Produced a number of replies, both, live comments and email, from people Who HAD successfully installed PCLinuxOS on UEFI firmware-systems. They Were all friendly and helpful, most is Either Offering advice, help or Offering, or directing me to help someone Who Could Probably, or to the PCLOS forums.
Not a single one of Them Was nasty, aggressive gold, gold started off with "Well Jamie, you ignorant misguided moron." That I appreciate, and I appreciate the help and advice, and I think That Is one of Linux's Strongest points.
The Linux community in general is full of helpful people, and PCLinuxOS: has a very long history and a very large number of dedicated users Who are willing-and happy to help When considers.
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